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Post by Robert on Jun 16, 2011 22:20:23 GMT -6
What exactly is it you are trying to reform? Mufon has been around for four decades so they seem to be doing ok. How is this forum going to change anything?
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Post by starkiller on Jun 17, 2011 17:37:16 GMT -6
They may seem to be doing ok on the outside but on the inside things aren't quite so spectacular. A lot of people are upset with some of the decisions that the management has been making lately. That's why several thousand members have quit over the past few years. They wouldn't be leaving if they were happy. I don't expect this forum to change anything. It is just a place where people can discuss what is going on with MUFON and see if they can come up with some solutions. If anybody has an opinion to offer they are more than welcome to. I'm sure the Committee would love to have your input.  |
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Post by Maguder on Jun 20, 2011 21:35:48 GMT -6
I lost faith in Mufon a long time ago and they are going to have to work very hard to rebuild my trust. If this forum can change things more power to it!!
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Post by starshipdisaster on Jun 21, 2011 7:44:24 GMT -6
I lost faith in Mufon a long time ago and they are going to have to work very hard to rebuild my trust. If this forum can change things more power to it!! A lot of folks have lost faith in MUFON and its sad considering what it could be and what it once was. |
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Post by starkiller on Jun 21, 2011 19:27:58 GMT -6
Yep, it had a lot of potential. it still does, we just need to get the right people in charge of it. The ones there now ain't it!  |
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Post by starshipdisaster on Jun 21, 2011 19:30:36 GMT -6
Yep, it had a lot of potential. it still does, we just need to get the right people in charge of it. The ones there now ain't it! thats the answer in a nutshell.  |
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Post by BuffaloBob on Jun 25, 2011 15:50:43 GMT -6
MUFON won't change. We will be "outsiders" and not taken seriously by them. They will probably react by:
(1) Ignoring the CRM group until we start to be visible and get attention from other groups. Then:
(2) MUFON will make jokes about us. Maybe call us "tinfoil-hats" to marginalize us until:
(3) MUFON goes on the offensive. (This is when we are scaring them) Threats of lawsuits, intimidation, email spam, etc and who knows what. They have powerful friends in high places.
IMHO the Achilles heel is their Not-For-Profit tax status. Ask yourself this...
Why is MUFON afraid of outsiders on the board? If there are no thousands or millions of dollars at stake, what's the big deal?
I have no knowledge about MUFON business. I have no idea of any unlawfulness or tax evasion by them. But as a former, dues paying MUFON member ID#17409, I'd like to know where my annual dues money went. Most MUFON members are volunteers. Where does the money go?
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Post by starkiller on Jun 25, 2011 20:27:18 GMT -6
MUFON won't change. We will be "outsiders" and not taken seriously by them. They will probably react by: (1) Ignoring the CRM group until we start to be visible and get attention from other groups. Then: (2) MUFON will make jokes about us. Maybe call us "tinfoil-hats" to marginalize us until: (3) MUFON goes on the offensive. (This is when we are scaring them) Threats of lawsuits, intimidation, email spam, etc and who knows what. They have powerful friends in high places. I think they have already tried all three of those to some extent. It just isn't working. |
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Post by Robert on Jul 22, 2011 21:57:22 GMT -6
Do you think this is really going to make a difference? Even if you somehow manage to get half of the members on your side the other half will still be against you. it sounds to me like you are fighting a losing battle.
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Post by starshipdisaster on Jul 23, 2011 19:34:06 GMT -6
Do you think this is really going to make a difference? Even if you somehow manage to get half of the members on your side the other half will still be against you. it sounds to me like you are fighting a losing battle. well thats your opinion and your welcome to it, but no one will ever know unless we try. |
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Post by Robert on Aug 2, 2011 18:45:23 GMT -6
So what are you people going to do now that the Board has shot down your election campaign? Are you ready to call it quits yet?
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Post by starshipdisaster on Aug 3, 2011 5:19:48 GMT -6
So what are you people going to do now that the Board has shot down your election campaign? Are you ready to call it quits yet? no. |
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Post by Guest on Aug 3, 2011 21:22:16 GMT -6
What exactly is it you are trying to reform? Mufon has been around for four decades so they seem to be doing ok. How is this forum going to change anything? How about starting with free speech? The fact that this board exists because the conversation here is BANNED on the MUFON board should speak VOLUMES what kind of problems MUFON has. |
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Post by starkiller on Aug 4, 2011 8:12:31 GMT -6
That's true Mr. Guest. The first MUFON forum was cancelled partly because the BoD didn't like some of the things people were discussing. On the second MUFON forum several people were fired from their positions because of the same reason. MUFON is obsessed with controlling information, especially when it is critical of them.
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